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What bike should I replace my Scalpel with??

12 years 7 months ago #217 by tom
Hi Jeff,

You knew that I would come around eventually! Yes, its the 08 mini-Nomad, but feels very much like an XC bike, except when it hits rocks and rutted trail and that's when it switches to AM mode.

I have learned my lesson about corrosion. Cannondale's frames are just not meant for HK, whether its the humidity or eco-friendly paint that US makers use ... even the replacement scalpel frame is bubbling less than a year later, but its nothing compared to what the previous frame looked like even after 6 months. Therefore I opted for the anodized Pewter.

ToM

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12 years 7 months ago #215 by Jeff
Ah, good to know there is another Yeti out on the hills! Is it an 08 mini-Nomad or one of the old knuckebone ones?

Tom- what colour did you get? The clearcoat on mine started corroding- a mixture of my sweat and HK humidity, I suspect. Not too bad (nowhere near as bad as Jenn's Cannondale), but enough that Yeti has said they'd replace the frame. BTW, there is only a year warranty on the paintwork. 5 on the integrity of the frame.

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12 years 7 months ago - 12 years 7 months ago #207 by tom
This is a bit of a soap opera but there was no true love with the Truth. It was really a nice XC bike and was fun when the forks were dropped down to 100mm but what I was really searching for was something that bordered XC/AM. At 140mm on the front the rear was lost and I kept fiddling to no avail to make the relationship work but I could not find the magic ingredient... so back I went to FB and switched everything over to a 575.

After riding the 575 this aft on Lamma I learned that this IS the bike for HK. Its not too squishy nor firm and can handle rugged single track just right yet has enough XC in it to please the old purists like me!

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12 years 7 months ago #96 by tom
Apparently his friends are roadies so he traded it in for a 50k road bike. Its now seen a bit of trail and mud (snakes path, quarry) so order is restored to the biking universe. Still fiddling with the shock and fork setup but getting close. Was tempted to test its jumping capabilities today but was not sure whether it floats... the RP23 say it does but... anyway check out the HKMBA Gallery Videos for a peek at the jumping fun that awaits in Lamma's quarry!!

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12 years 7 months ago #92 by Jeff
I have no idea why someone would buy a Truth just to ride it on the road, but it's great that someone did.

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12 years 7 months ago #81 by tom
Hi Guys, Thanks for all your advice. Its fun to explore how we decide upon something that from the outset we plan to only have a very physical relationship with. Yesterday, I walked into FB with my mind set on a 575 but rode out with a very lightly used (road only) 2008 Ellsworth Truth for a decent price. I wont buy a bike that I cant try beforehand, so fortunately I was allowed to take it for a spin around the block, up to the hospital, down a few sets of stairs and I quite liked it! Its fully XT, got 4 inches on the back and is paired with the Fox Talas RLC 140 that can be stepped down to 120 and 100mm. The ride seemed less twitchy and bouncy than the 575 and definitely the RP23 pro-pedal made it feel like a hard-tail when needed. How it handles the trail is another story ... ToM

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12 years 7 months ago #80 by bikesteve
Replied by bikesteve on topic What bike should I replace my Scalpel with??
If you get a chance ride the new Trance, aimed more towards 'All-Mountain" than XC but given a lightweight component package it comes in pretty light (and alot cheaper than those bikes from 'accross the pond')

My thinking is you probably would find the Anthem to limited on travel at about 3.5" rear, even with my limited experinence of full suspension I feel I could enjoy the ride better with slightly more movement here.

Steve

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12 years 8 months ago #49 by BeardedBlunder
Replied by BeardedBlunder on topic What bike should I replace my Scalpel with??
cant give a real reason against santa cruz - i used to have the superlight and found it terrible for hk technical trails - it kept throwing me, the only time it was ever fantastic was the later section of CMW when the trail is really flowing. Im not the only rider to encounter this problem with the lighter santa crus bikes, mark leeper had a blur and he to kept crashing, now some people may just say that is marks riding style but others including stu sharpless have had spectacular wipe outs from their blurs and on a very regular basis

i dont know why this is as it is the same geomatry as other bikes - just for hk it never seemed to work. i switched to a foes and then could ride like a normal rider again

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12 years 8 months ago - 12 years 8 months ago #47 by Jeff
The 08 575 has a slightly longer top tube, so I assume it's also got a longer wheelbase and should be slightly more stable.

If you're a big climbing fan, I wouldn't actually recommend the 575- mine bobs noticably when climbing out of the saddle and while I can flick Propedal on and off, this is a pain to do. I like the bike, I just suspect that it's not ideal for you.

Another choice would be a Giant Trance or Trance X- longer travel than your Scalpel and a suspension platform that gets really good reviews. I've tried riding an Anthem and was really impressed, so the Trance should be similar.

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12 years 8 months ago #33 by bob.smith
Replied by bob.smith on topic What bike should I replace my Scalpel with??
Tom,

I think either of these bikes would be a good choice. I just recently went through the same research and looked at every bike under the sun.

In my short list was the following: (for 26in bikes)

- Intense 5.5
- Santa Cruz Blur LT
- Yeti 575

i also had 29in full sussers included.
- The Niner RIP
- Ventana El Rey

After months of analysis, and zero riding of any of them I narrowed it down to the Santa Cruz and the El Rey 29er.

It wasn't really a call between these two bike but it became the platform. In the end I went with the El Rey because I am sold on the 29er frame work and also becasue of the interchangeality of my bike parts between with my existing HT niner.

I had owned a Blur in the past and simply loved it. I have two friends who purchased the "new" Blur LT and raved about it. Said it was the best bike they had ever owend. I have heard it called a "Little Nomad". So if I would have gone with a 26in bike i would have gone with the 2008 Santa Cruz Blur LT....

But in the end I don't think you can go wrong with either of the bikes you mentioned. As we know, Julien, Pierre and Ed all own the 575 and they all love thier bike.

So maybe there are just a few too many 575's on the trail and I haven't seen any new LT's out there ;)

Hope that helps a little.

Bob

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