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Upcoming meetings with Gov't

11 years 2 months ago - 11 years 2 months ago #199 by Murtster
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11 years 3 months ago #172 by bob.smith
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Thanks for the input. Would love to have your help in putting a proposal like that together. We are all volunteers doing this and are stretched pretty thin right now. If you want to work on this let us know.

Thanks
Bob

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11 years 3 months ago #170 by econbus
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Great work guys - it sounds very promising. I think they should also consider opening trails in other country parks - the Wu Kau Tang loop to Luk Keng springs to mind and there are other parks where trails could be developed such as Pat Sing Leng and Sai Kung country park. I would also push them to open up the stretch of service road that is currently prohibited leading from near Tai Lam reservoir back down to Ho Pui village. It makes no earthly sense to exclude riders from this road, which acts as a real lifeline for overheated riders and completes a nice loop from either the top of route Twisk or uphill from Ho Pui village.

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11 years 3 months ago #168 by BeardedBlunder
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One other thing that was stressed in the meeting that jules mentioned to me was the need to educate both hikers and bikers of trail advocacy

this is something that is key to moving foward, getting to know hikers what they want and the reasons they feel threatened - we need to understand their concerns and act proffesionally on it

there is no point now having an us or them attitude.

To this end HKMBA will be wotking with AFCD to produce some literiture that will hopefully educate bikers and hikers the rules of proper trail usage

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11 years 3 months ago #152 by bob.smith
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On Tuesday Sept 2nd HKMBA met with AFCD to discuss further development of the trail network at Tai Lam Country Park. This was one of several meetings we have had with AFCD to discuss this topic.

In attendance for HKMBA were Tom McGuiness, Julian Lallemand and Bob Smith (me).

AFCD is very receptive to the possibility of improving and expanding MTB trails in the park and as such has asked HKMBA to assist them in identify areas within the park that could be used for further development. They have also expressed an interest in our expertise as it relates to trail design and building.

Basically the AFCD faces three problems and they would like to see them resolved.

- Trail erosion on DH sections
- Reduction of contact between hikers and bikers on the existing trails
- Eliminate illegal trail riding

HKMBA has demonstrated that the existing trail network is woefully inadequate both in terms of quantity and design and thus is at the root of the problems.

Separate DH sections and XC sections that allow for continuous, and concentric loops with their own points of single entry/exit would dramatically improve the situation in the park.

The concept we promote and continue to promote with AFCD and all entities, both govn't and non govn't, is that a well designed MTB tail system will benefit a wide audience and reduce conflicts and trails destruction. We are not so much asking for "more" trails but better designed networks of trails, that don't include concrete by the way.

HKMBA has identified areas within the park that could be utilized to expand the trail network and have mimimum impact on hikers and the terrain itself.

Based on this concept HKMBA is putting togeter three proposals.

1- Plan to divert and repair damaged DH sections
2- Find alternative routes to divert MTB traffic within existing framework of trials
3- Develop a comprehensive plan to build a sustainable XC course that can be used by a wider variety of riders.

We will begin work on these items immidiatey.

In addition we will approach other organizations within HK to obtain funds to run these projects.

We will also need to begin to lobby the people who sit on the board of AFCD. Theser are civilicans who have a vote on what projects move forward, they are not AFCD employees but represent the community interests.

As always we need your help in doing all this. We have 4 of us working on it right now and need more hands to get this done.

This is all really possible but we need to keep up the momentum and all help out....

Cheers
Bob Smith
Chairman
HKMBA

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11 years 3 months ago #148 by Murtster
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How did the meeting go Bob?

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11 years 3 months ago #129 by bob.smith
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HKMBA will be meeting with AFCD on Tuesday Sept 2nd at 2:30 PM. We are meeting with the managers of the Tai Lam Park. This is an ongoing discussion that revolves around the expansion of the MTB trail network within the park. AFCD is
open to the possibility of new trails in hopes of reducing the use of the more popular trails that are shared by both hikers and bikers.

All are welcomed to particpate in this project. Be a part of the design and future planning of the trail network in Tai Lam.

Bob Smith

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